No updates about state of dw tanks in Cataclysm

[Felstrider]

Anyone else annoyed about blizzard's less than stellar changes to the DK class, and then just getting tight lipped about it afterwards.  Compared to other classes, we got a bunch of "Well it might be's" rather than any focused changes to our class.  It looks like we will be a work in progress in the next patch.

[Kukulza]

Not particularly, actually. If you consider how big of a difference between now and LK launch there are in certain mechanics (diseases affecting damage, dual wield, spells, etc), I wouldn't want them to tell us a bunch of stuff that's just going to get changed halfway through beta.

Not quite sure if you played LK beta, but it was horrible. HORRIBLE. Obliterate used to be able to one shot level 70 players from a sub 70 player.

[Felstrider]

No was too busy finishing up raiding BC content.  I was part of the original beta before the game launched, before the public betas..

woot level 32, character wipe.. repeat that about 4 times.. lol.

[Kukulza]

I dunno if you even still swing by these forums anymore, but take a look at this. http://www.raevyn.net/wiki/files/talent/deathknight.html

It doesn't look like dual wield will be viable with all the survivability talents being taken out of the other trees and moved to blood. Also consider that with the removal of defense from gear, Improved Blood Presence will be MANDATORY to tank.

Edit: Looks like Blizzard is making new trees entirely. Derp.

[Felstrider]

They could make DW just as effective as 2H, they have taken all the fluff out of talent trees and made all the changes to rage, they could easily make DW/2h a cosmetic choice for DK's and other players that can dw.  All specials hit with both or the single weapon.  If the 2h does 800DPS then 800 Damage per swing, and the 2h 400 damage per swing, make parry chance half as low for DW to account for twice the number of strikes that could be parried.

Just numbers either way.